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Christians who fall into sexual sins - 3/4/2010 2:45:43 PM
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Davidzarate
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There is an alarming need for Pastors to teach on christian chasity! Why are the pulpits silent on this issue?
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RE: Christians who fall into sexual sins - 3/4/2010 3:04:06 PM
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Zaac2000
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There is an alarming need for Pastors to teach on christian chasity! Why are the pulpits silent on this issue?
Probably for the same reason that the pulpit has been silent on a number of issues. Perhaps the problem is that we have got too many pastors in the pulpit trying to be pleasing to man first and not enough trying to be pleasing to Christ first.
The Body of Christ is really looking like the body of the enemy cause we are doing much the same things as the lost. 
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RE: Christians who fall into sexual sins - 3/4/2010 3:15:26 PM
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Davidzarate
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Thankyou for your response! would you join me in sounding the alarm?
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RE: Christians who fall into sexual sins - 3/4/2010 3:28:44 PM
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stellaluna
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What sort of sexual sin?
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RE: Christians who fall into sexual sins - 3/4/2010 3:30:33 PM
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There are pastors who do preach against various sexual sins... and even get specific about it.
Although there is a dearth, it may not be as bad as you think.
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RE: Christians who fall into sexual sins - 3/4/2010 3:45:13 PM
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rcjames
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There is an alarming need for Pastors to teach on christian chasity! Why are the pulpits silent on this issue?
Are you saying that Pastor's should teach that all sex is sin, or just against sexual sin.
Chastity mean pure or virgin.
If you are refering to remaining a virgin (chaste) until one is married; then I do not know of a Pastor in the world teach against that, or that does not stand against sex outside of marriage.
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RE: Christians who fall into sexual sins - 3/4/2010 3:57:09 PM
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Davidzarate
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Look at Ephesians 6:14a it promotes sexual purity for the believer and is meant to protect against sexual sins!
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RE: Christians who fall into sexual sins - 3/4/2010 3:58:54 PM
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Davidzarate
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See also Ephesians 5:3-7!
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RE: Christians who fall into sexual sins - 3/4/2010 4:24:04 PM
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Look at Ephesians 6:14a it promotes sexual purity for the believer and is meant to protect against sexual sins!
(Eph 6:14) Stand therefore, having your loins girt about with truth, and having on the breastplate of righteousness;
What is the world does this verse have to do with sexual sin?
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See also Ephesians 5:3-7!
(Eph 5:3) But fornication, and all uncleanness, or covetousness, let it not be once named among you, as becometh saints;
(Eph 5:4) Neither filthiness, nor foolish talking, nor jesting, which are not convenient: but rather giving of thanks.
(Eph 5:5) For this ye know, that no whoremonger, nor unclean person, nor covetous man, who is an idolater, hath any inheritance in the kingdom of Christ and of God.
(Eph 5:6) Let no man deceive you with vain words: for because of these things cometh the wrath of God upon the children of disobedience.
(Eph 5:7) Be not ye therefore partakers with them.
Ok that list some sexual sins and instructions, and what is your point in referencig that passage?
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RE: Christians who fall into sexual sins - 3/4/2010 4:27:07 PM
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Look at Ephesians 6:14a it promotes sexual purity for the believer and is meant to protect against sexual sins!
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See also Ephesians 5:3-7!
Hmm...
I'm not getting what you're trying to do here other than pointing people to Scripture. And that's good... But it's not really eliciting further discussion... yet.
As my English literature professors used to tell me, you have to explicate what you quote, in order to help people understand the point you're trying to make.
I've heard several preachers speak specifically against sexual sins. Against specific sins as well, not merely the category as a generic whole.
Were you wanting to discuss why some preachers do not preach against sexual sin?
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RE: Christians who fall into sexual sins - 3/4/2010 4:32:47 PM
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Tommy Nelson is a preacher in Texas I believe who preaches heavily from the book of Song of Solomon. VERY heavy with sex, purity, and why it's okay to desire your future spouse but also why you should wait.
Sex is preached about in different parts, but it's taught that desire is a sin, PERIOD and that sex is only for procreation. Kinda throws people off.
Others don't want to discuss sex because it's considered "personal" and they don't want to offend people, or embarrass parents.
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RE: Christians who fall into sexual sins - 3/4/2010 5:36:57 PM
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In my experience, people don't "FALL" into sin ... most seem to LEAP (often joyfully) into sin ... just saying.
IMHO, then we wouldn't be talking about Christians.
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RE: Christians who fall into sexual sins - 3/4/2010 5:38:56 PM
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IMHO, then we wouldn't be talking about Christians.
Even if they have a strong reputation of godliness, and repents after the sin?
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RE: Christians who fall into sexual sins - 3/5/2010 9:26:57 AM
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I know with every fiber of my being and based on God's Word that I became a Christian on Dec. 22, 1988. I repented of sin and turned my life over to Jesus Christ. I grew in my faith, studied His word, prayed, strove for obedience.
Then in 2005, I began to allow my heart to harden based on resentments and disappointments. The Holy Spirit whispered. But I was angry. Entitled. Sad. I allowed myself to make one decision after another - decisions that might have seemed innocent even by some on this board - but they were a slippery slope, and in 2006 I committed adultery.
I repented, grieved over my sin, asked God's forgiveness, and he restored me. I also confessed to my H (which is ALWAYS the right course of action), my family, and our pastor. It was a dark time in my life, but at no millisecond during that time was I no longer God's. I sinned, fell, chose, whatever word is easier for one to stomach. He convicted, He chastened, and I repented.
I am not that girl who sinned, or that girl who committed adultery to anyone who knows me. I am a woman who is covered by the blood of Christ. THAT is how we deal with sexual sin....just like every other sin that God hates just as much.
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RE: Christians who fall into sexual sins - 3/5/2010 9:59:21 AM
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IMHO, then we wouldn't be talking about Christians.
Even if they have a strong reputation of godliness, and repents after the sin?
Someone who JOYFULLY LEAPS into sin is, IMHO, is in need of being born again and indwelt by the Holy Spirit.
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RE: Christians who fall into sexual sins - 3/5/2010 10:19:02 AM
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Someone who JOYFULLY LEAPS into sin is, IMHO, is in need of being born again and indwelt by the Holy Spirit.
Absolutely correct, Euty.
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RE: Christians who fall into sexual sins - 3/5/2010 11:26:56 AM
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This is going to sound snarky, but I promise I do not mean it that way. Until I came to this forum, I don't think I had ever met anyone who actually had never sinned since becoming a Christian, and I know some godly people. They don't excuse sin, they just do not say they have not committed a sin since salvation. They also have never testified to being joyful about sinning. The closest I have come is a church where I grew up that thought you were no longer saved every time you sinned and therefore must be re-baptized. I had a wild friend in high school that got "re-baptized" almost every week! is it really that common for someone to never lie, think a bad thought, get angry, etc. once they get saved until the day they die?
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RE: Christians who fall into sexual sins - 3/5/2010 11:35:58 AM
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rcjames
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This is going to sound snarky, but I promise I do not mean it that way. Until I came to this forum, I don't think I had ever met anyone who actually had never sinned since becoming a Christian, and I know some godly people.
I don't think I have ever read on this forum that someone claims that they have never sinned since salvation.
Possible you are misreading someone's position on Sanctification?
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RE: Christians who fall into sexual sins - 3/5/2010 11:39:00 AM
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Probably. I just wonder weird things sometimes, like if the guy who drew the preacher in your avatar is the same one who drew all those comic strips about the band director.
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RE: Christians who fall into sexual sins - 3/5/2010 11:49:19 AM
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Probably. I just wonder weird things sometimes, like if the guy who drew the preacher in your avatar is the same one who drew all those comic strips about the band director.
I am not sure about a band director, but Doug Marlette, who has gone on to see Jesus, was mont famous for his comic strip "Kudzu"
He also did a lot of political cartoons.
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RE: Christians who fall into sexual sins - 3/5/2010 11:48:28 PM
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Amen HeRemainsFaithful,
I've not read such a passionate truthful statement regarding our position in Christ than what you confess to here.
I applaud you in your integrity, and in your stance upon the faithful work of Jesus Christ in our lives.
Amen.
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RE: Christians who fall into sexual sins - 3/9/2010 3:19:06 PM
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I have scanned this thread from time to time and I keep coming back to one thought...
To say a person falls into sexual sin is like saying a person falls into their clothes each morning. It takes an act of will and a conscious decision to go do it. The clothes don't jump up and grab you. And the sexual sin doesn't force itself on you.
And hey, I am not pointing fingers at anyone because I have my own pointing back at me. Just saying from experience, its not so much of a fall as it is a tip-toe in the shadows.
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RE: Christians who fall into sexual sins - 3/9/2010 8:32:34 PM
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I would agree with this point of using the term "fall" as in we fall into temptation.
I understand why its used, but perhaps it isn't valid enough anymore to continue using.
I walk right into temptation, sometimes walking right along the edge admiring how I'm capable of resisting a certain favorite of my old nature. I sometimes just jump right in, spur of the moment something triggers a negative response and I lash out in anger.
That's all I'll say, except that I think neuronstatic posted a good response and I'm glad for it. Thank you.
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I have scanned this thread from time to time and I keep coming back to one thought...
To say a person falls into sexual sin is like saying a person falls into their clothes each morning. It takes an act of will and a conscious decision to go do it. The clothes don't jump up and grab you. And the sexual sin doesn't force itself on you.
And hey, I am not pointing fingers at anyone because I have my own pointing back at me. Just saying from experience, its not so much of a fall as it is a tip-toe in the shadows.
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