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I try to be polite as they handed me their book of mormon and asked me to pray and ask God to show me if what they said is true.

Would it be too brazen of me to say to them, "Yeah I read it, prayed about it, and He said He didn't know because He never heard of you?"

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ORIGINAL: ta_mosquito

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Would it be too brazen of me to say to them, "Yeah I read it, prayed about it, and He said He didn't know because He never heard of you?"

I don't think that would be too brazen. However, it would be a bit brazen to say, "Thanks! I needed more kindling for my wood stove!"

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ORIGINAL: CMT8808

So for a few weeks I have JW's knocking on my door and I have been refuting them and now today my neighbor sent some Elders from her church to come visit <a big groan>.

I try to be polite as they handed me their book of mormon and asked me to pray and ask God to show me if what they said is true.

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ORIGINAL: deermousie

God is sanctifying you, sharpening His Word in you, and making you a light to people who believe in false gods (note the small "g").

God invites JWs and Mormons to Himself and some of them come; I'm one of them, a former Mormon and now a child of God by His grace and blood. The real God, not the one named Adam who had sexual intercourse with Mary to produce Jesus and later grew up to be God Almighty. Yes, they really believe this, but they'll lie about it unless you back them into a corner. Or the "missionary" is a new convert and hasn't be told the truth about what they really believe yet (yes, they have two sets of beliefs, and only the higher-level members know the second set exists). It's called "Adam-God."

It's a crock when they ask you to pray if the Book of Mormon is real or not; God gave us His Word in black and white. It can't be added to. Our feelings can be influenced by the cold pizza we had for breakfast, and our hearts can be lied to by spirits. God chose to reach most of us with an objective Book; you are wise to stick to it.

I wouldn't be snarky with these poor lost souls, but tell the truth boldly. When Mormons come to my door, first of all I won't let them in (because they won't leave when you want them to, and I make lemonade and set chairs under shady trees to talk to JWs) but I start talking before they hardly have a chance. "The Bible says a true prophet never lies but Joseph Smith said there were people living on the moon who were 10 feet tall and dress like Quakers. He said he saw God the Father when Jesus said no one has ever seen the Father except the Son; one of them is lying. You guys, I'm afraid have been lied to, and I encourage you to embrace the true God of the Bible. Go read it, and not the tampered-with Inspired Version. God bless you guys and lead you to the real God! I'm praying for you!" And gently close the door, and pray like a big dog because it's a spiritual battle.

A great book for you to get is Walter Martin's "Kingdom of the Cults" that puts Mormon and JW teaching side-by-side with biblical teaching, and tells you how to witness to these poor lied-to people. The Mormons used to sue this guy over and over, and they never once won because he used all of their published material to prove what they really believed.

There's a video at the Christian bookstore called "The God Makers" that is their leadership talking about Adam-God and Blood Atonement ("if you sin really bad you have to shed your own blood to pay for it; Jesus' wasn't enough" which is dead wrong, of course) and is very interesting and totally damning.

When you deal with cultists like Latter Day Saints (Mormons) and JWs, it's intense spiritual warfare. Make sure your sins are 'fessed up, and go loaded for spiritual bear. Have people praying for you, and get someone who's a former cultist but now mature Christian in good reputation to come help you if you set up a date to talk to anyone in a cult. The lies and spiritual battle will be heavy (it totally exhausts me to do this, and I find myself vunerable to lies for about a week afterwards) so don't take it lightly. But don't be afraid, either - God will help you and He brings the victory! After all, He saved you, right? He can use you to save others, even if you're only a small link in the chain. Boldly proclaim His truth, and God bless you!

(Totally ironic; as a newlywed, we bought a house next to a Mormon bishop. He never did want to hear anything from us. Hey, we were available! He knew that if he believed us, he would have lost his job, his house and his family. Poor man between a rock and a hard place).

One of the biggest sources of new membership in the Mormon church is a mainstream Christian denomination, because they don't teach the Bible well and the members don't recognize error when it's in their face. "Gee, those Mormons are so nice and family-oriented; I think I'll go to church there." Not a good move.

Mormons think Adam was Jesus' father and that Jesus and the devil are brothers and that good Mormon elders become gods after they die and sexually procreate children for all eternity. True, the Mormons deny these beliefs to new members... Go see the video, "The God Makers," and hear it from their own leaders' lips.

And God bless you, protect you, and save your poor neighbors by His infinite grace to the lost!