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Where do you think Southern Gospel is going?? - 12/3/2008 3:29:12 PM
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kenworth
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I ask this question to some of you who have been around a long time....
I already know what I think....what do you think??
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RE: Where do you think Southern Gospel is going?? - 12/3/2008 3:49:11 PM
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kenworth
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Are you kidding did you ever see the cd's walmat has...Southern Gospel would love to go to Walmart 
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RE: Where do you think Southern Gospel is going?? - 12/3/2008 3:57:18 PM
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In many ways, Southern gospel as I knew it has gone. Church choirs, where they even exist, don't sing the old songs for the most part. The groups who consider themsellves Southern Gospel, in many cases, sing something far removed from what I have always known as that genre. I could never understand the drive that some folks have to "change the industry". There's nothing wrong with much of the newer "Southern Gospel" being performed today. The thing is, if you enjoy fried chicken and somebody gives you fried turkey, you'll notice the difference! Nothing wrong with fried turkey, but it doesn't qualify as suthern fried chicken. If someone comes up with a different style of music, let them classify it any way they want. Just don't try to force me to accept it as something dear to my heart and that I'm very familiar with.
With all that off my chest, let me say that I believe Southern Gospel music in the classic sense will always be around as long as there are people who enjoy it. The so called "industry" may convert to another style, and even continue to call it SG, but if there is a demand for it. someone will record the music we like. If it is not recorded and available for sale, it will still exist in the hearts of many people for years to come.
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RE: Where do you think Southern Gospel is going?? - 12/3/2008 4:53:45 PM
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This is a very HUGE question, in my mind. I've been following SG music since the early 1980s and have been singing SG music since our family group began in 1982. In 2001, that family group became my sister and me as a female duet ... which is HIGHLY UNUSUAL for SG music! In fact, there isn't even a CATEGORY for duets in the SN Fan Awards ... like we don't even exist! Thankfully, other awards programs DO recognize that it doesn't matter how many people are on stage singing to be able to do a work for God! In fact, we have been in the Top 5 for "Duet" at the Diamond Awards the last four years! For 2008, we WON the Sunrise Award. And we are the Country Gospel Music Associations' "Duo" and "A capella" Artist for three consecutive years. Well, now that I've tooted our own horn ... to the question at hand.
In listening to SG music, I have always enjoyed the mixed group sound. I am NOT a quartet fan (sorry to say!). There are a few quartets that I enjoy, but they have to have a "different" sound to where I don't think I'm listening to the same song over and over. So, for me, that "old style, quartet music" would bore me to tears and I would not be listening to SG music if that were all it offered. However, there are many, many SG fans who would simply love to hear nothing BUT quartets! To them, I say: more power to you! You can enjoy your quartets while I enjoy sounds like THE HOPPERS; CRABBS; PERRYS; etc.
The thing that "bugs" me about SG music fans is the inability to accept other forms of SG music as part of our genre. After all, the entire SG "industry" began with a guy putting together a quartet SIMPLY FOR THE PURPOSE OF SELLING HYMNALS!!! The start of our industry was anything but spiritual. Now, it's almost like (in some people's minds) that anything other than the old-style quartet music is NOT SPIRITUAL! That does bug me a bit. I'm just being honest here.
After all, we are all individuals with very different tastes of likes and dislikes. Although I love Mexican food, I'd get tired of eating it every day of my life! In my opinion, as long as SG lyrics are Biblically correct and the words can be heard to where they can make a difference in people's lives ... then I will accept it and know that while it may not be my exact preference in style, it's going to do something ... for somebody!
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RE: Where do you think Southern Gospel is going?? - 12/3/2008 5:10:06 PM
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I'll probably have more to say on this subject later, but...
Change is necessary for survival. Rock 'n roll doesn't sound like it did in the fifties, and neither does country music. Even in the short time rap "music" has been around it has changed in sound. Don't believe me? Well, if you can stomach it, go to youtube and listen to the Fresh Prince rapping about how "the girls of the world ain't nothin' but trouble" and then listen to Snoop Dogg instructing us to "drop it like it's hot". Very, very different sound.
Why should SG not follow suite? And for that matter, there are "retro" groups in all those genres today, so let's keep a healthy mix of traditional and progressive. What's so wrong with that?
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RE: Where do you think Southern Gospel is going?? - 12/3/2008 6:18:22 PM
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Until we get honest about what we are talking about, there will always be differences of opinions. The term Southern to many has negative connotations. To many it relates back to a lesser mentality or subpar talent. So the move is to change the original to something else in hopes of removing or doing away with the term southern. Being a Southern Baptist for over 55 years, there has been a move to remove southern from Baptist. Many mega Southern Baptist Churches have gone to generic names in hopes of elevating their status to something above southern. Which is fine with me, but they should be honest about the change.
The National Quartet Convention has more trios, duets, solos and family groups than they have quartets, but it erroniously still is the quartet convention. In the pure sense, when I think of a southern gospel quartet, I think of 4 men and a piano. When I think of a trio I think of The LeFevre Trio with Eva Mae on the piano. A family, the Speer Family with all member named Speer. The style can be adapted to any group, but the style must remain shaped notes in nature.
Now don't get me wrong. Some of my favorite gospel entertainers and song ministers are trios and a select few soloists. Besides Southern Gospel, I love pure bluegrass, Pure Country, and love classical on a Sunday afternoon.
But Southern Gospel need not be re-defined just for the sake of lumping something into it that is not. Why should we have to say, Traditional Southern Gospel and not say, Contemporary Southern Gospel or progressive Southern Gospel, or any other term we add. Why do we have to change the originial term SG to Traditional SG?
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RE: Where do you think Southern Gospel is going?? - 12/3/2008 6:23:03 PM
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WELL SAID, Melvin.
Amen!!!
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RE: Where do you think Southern Gospel is going?? - 12/3/2008 10:49:35 PM
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RE: Where do you think Southern Gospel is going?? - 12/4/2008 7:57:37 AM
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I think most individuals responses will boil down to the era of Southern Gospel in which they grew up. I am an '80s kid and therefore had my Southern Gospel introduction to the groups of the late '70s/early '80s. To me that is Southern Gospel. Hopper Brothers & Connie, Rex Nelon Singers, Kingsmen, Heaven Bound, Paynes, Hinsons, Talleys, Cathedrals, Gold City, etc.
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RE: Where do you think Southern Gospel is going?? - 12/4/2008 8:22:48 AM
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kenworth
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WOW!!! you all have great thoughts on where and why I am glad I asked the question......
it seems to me it is all about the $$$...now I dont mean the singers....I mean record companys taking money from people who they know have no chance in making it in this industry....I know a group who signed with a record company paid a huge price to record...and now a promotion company want them to release a SINGLE!!....for a big price too of course....these companys have made them think they are going to be stars....and 90% of there dates are in long term care homes.....
One of you brought up talent....With as little as the singers make most can make better money working a job and being home everynight...and working in there home church...I think talent wise right now we are industry wide at our weakest....now there are some GREAT singers out there....but not for the most part...when you look at the past
keep posting I am learning alot from you folks..... 
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RE: Where do you think Southern Gospel is going?? - 12/4/2008 10:59:46 AM
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danielmount
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kenworth, for decades there have been companies getting money from local artists. But there have also been quite legitimate record labels and radio promotion companies.
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RE: Where do you think Southern Gospel is going?? - 12/4/2008 11:51:09 AM
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Seaton
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Also 25 to 30 years ago there were less groups on the Gospel Music scene and the few major labels of the day accounted for the large majority of artists within the industry. Nowadays it is too easy for anybody with a little money to get an album recorded and a single to radio.
With the internet anybody who goes out and sings can create a website and market themselves as a professional Southern Gospel artist (whether they are or not). Ultimately it is in the hands of the listener and end user whether or not they choose to purchase 'sub par' music.
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RE: Where do you think Southern Gospel is going?? - 12/4/2008 12:54:14 PM
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kenworth, for decades there have been companies getting money from local artists. But there have also been quite legitimate record labels and radio promotion companies.
Yep. There have always been people deluded about their talent level and unscrupulous promoters and recording studios that will take advantage of those delusions.
I've been offered a few of those recording deals where all I had to do was come up with 6 or 8 thousand dollars to become a star. I've sadly seen a few individuals spend 3 and 4 times that amount or more and have nothing to show for it.
Although I'm a good singer and decent songwriter I am not so enamored of myself that I will believe that I will become the next Ivan Parker or Mark Bishop. I'll just keep doing what I'm doing and singing where I get invited, and doing what I can do for the Lord.
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RE: Where do you think Southern Gospel is going?? - 12/4/2008 4:07:32 PM
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I just checked the Singing News Top 80 for January. To my surprise six of the top 10 songs are preformed by the all-male quartet. I have not noticed that number for a while. I don't have any of the all-male classic quartets in my top 10 to buy list. I am probably not your average senior adult classic buyer of cds. I am a registered dietitian and advocate moderation and variety in food selection. I sure hope that the same applies for SG music in the future.
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RE: Where do you think Southern Gospel is going?? - 12/5/2008 12:14:30 AM
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I think SG is heading where the new country sound of Darius Rucker and Jessica Simpson are doing. Today's SG artist lack complete SG songs where you can like every song on a project. It seems the production for SG in the studio is not as great as in the past. It seems todays music is all done computerized and some SG projects are uninspiring. For those SG projects that are uninspiring, I will keep them nameless. Also the pick for singles for SG projects is weak.
I see sales moving to digital online. SG is going to start offering those cards where you can download music instead of purchasing on cd.
Just my 2 cents.
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RE: Where do you think Southern Gospel is going?? - 12/5/2008 6:44:11 AM
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Donna Strong (Hearts Of Faith),
Way to "toot your own horn", I have never heard of your group.
Mr. Melivin Klaudt summed it up..............clearly!
IMO, SG as some of us have known it, is going away or in some instances, already gone.
Time produces change. Change is inevitable.
Change has produced the "terms" we now are using today,
traditional, progressive, contemporary, alternative, etc.
I am fine with that.
Signature Sound, Greater Vision and Legacy Five today are not the
Cathedrals of yesterday.
Gold City today is not the Gold City of yesterday.
The Hoppers today are The Hoppers of yesterday.
The list could go on and on.................................
Time, money (or lack of), modern technology has and will continue to
produce change in every thing that we do.
HDTV is more appealing than the old black-n-white model.
Satellite/digital radio is more appealing than the old analog version.
Some of today's musicians are more "technically" advanced than some of
those from days gone by.
With that technical advancement, you will hear the progressive, alternative, contemporary sound.
There are more opportunities with technical advancement to enhance
musical theory, production and performance.
"Most" of us can accept the musical changes that we are hearing today.
Now, the theatrics, choreography, etc. that has risen in recent years is
a "touchy" subject with some.
IMO, the Signature Sounds, Dove Bros, and some others, are not the
Blackwoods, Statesman, etc. of yesteryear.
Siganture Sound to me, is more of a choreographed performance.
Dove Bros, a blatent mess!
The Hoppers (Shoutin' Time Strut), a poor or badly rehearsed move.
Maybe it was a different time and place, but IMO, James Blackwood,
Rosie, Mosie, Big Chief, J.D. and others I am forgetting, tastefully and
eloquently gave you a masterful performance and the terms staged,
choreographed and theatrical never came to mind.
Remember the word CHANGE? Oh my, how true that word is!
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RE: Where do you think Southern Gospel is going?? - 12/5/2008 7:35:44 AM
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danielmount
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quote:
ORIGINAL: RETBASSPLAYER
IMO, SG as some of us have known it, is going away or in some instances, already gone.
It might be scarce, but I don't think it'll ever be completely gone as long as groups like the Dixie Echoes, Chuck Wagon Gang, and Blackwood Brothers are hitting the road each weekend.
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RE: Where do you think Southern Gospel is going?? - 12/5/2008 9:50:38 AM
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Traditional SG will never die. Look at the biggest grossing tours in other genres and you will find artists from the 60's and 70's still selling out large halls and in some cases, arenas.
There will always be a call for the older, classic music, even if the style in question does evolve....
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RE: Where do you think Southern Gospel is going?? - 1/6/2009 6:55:35 PM
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donnastrong
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Donna Strong (Hearts Of Faith),
Way to "toot your own horn", I have never heard of your group.
As you can see, I haven't been on the forum for awhile. For some reason, even though I check for replies to my comments, I've not been getting them.
RETBASSPLAYER:
I'm not really sure what your comment means ... please explain ~ especially since you didn't address anything else I had to say in my e-mail.
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RE: Where do you think Southern Gospel is going?? - 1/7/2009 7:02:16 AM
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RETBASSPLAYER
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I didn't mean that as a negative comment.
I had never heard of your group until I read your post.
I even browsed your website after reading your post.
Now I know.
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RE: Where do you think Southern Gospel is going?? - 1/7/2009 12:43:07 PM
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I've grown up with Southern Gospel and it runs through my veins.
My quartet is what you'd call a "progressive Southern Gospel" quartet because while we've got fabulous 4-part mixed harmony, our music tends to be less traditional, though we do incorporate lots of traditional songs to our repertoire.
I agree that everything changes. I was a music major, and over time ALL music changed. That's why there were baroque, classical, and romantic periods in musical literature. It wasn't a bad change, just different.
I don't want SG to turn into CCM, because it would lose it's identity.
They are two separate and necessary genres, regardless of how you feel about either.
I'm excited that with the more progressive sounds, more young people are getting involved. The "country gospel" sound just doesn't bring in the young crowd, for the most part. If there are young singers, there will likely be young fans.
I will probably always sing SG, regardless of where the fad is moving.
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