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For the Glory of the Unitied Socialists of America - 9/20/2008 10:35:37 AM   
rlj


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Sorry, I couldn't resist. General Secretary Comrade Bush has sent his request to the Party Congress requesting 700 million rubles- er I mean Yuan, no wait that would be dollars to reverse the awful trend of the capitalist pig swine who have brought this glorious country to its knees with their vicious and greedy methods of business.

quote:

NEW YORK (CNNMoney.com) -- The Bush administration has asked Congress for the authority to spend as much as $700 billion to purchase troubled mortgage assets, according to a copy of the proposal obtained by CNN.

The legislative proposal - the centerpiece of the most sweeping economic intervention by the government since the Great Depression - was sent by the White House overnight to lawmakers.

Treasury Secretary Henry Paulson, lawmakers and their aides are expected to work through the weekend in an effort to craft a bill swiftly. Democratic leaders on Capitol Hill said they expect the bill to go before a vote within days.


http://money.cnn.com/2008/09/20/news/economy/bailout_proposal/index.htm?postversion=2008092009

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RE: Bush says government will make the banks all better - 9/20/2008 7:29:15 PM   
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ORIGINAL: cow451

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ORIGINAL: rlj

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Correction: Texas is WEST, not South. His Excellency is a westerner, not a Southerner.


They're south of the Mason and Dixon line. :P


A mere technicality. State must have a member of the SEC or ACC to be part of the South.



Incorrect.

Texas is not a "western" state but a "southwestern" state.

Southerners are those from states who were members of the Confederate States.

We in Texas are very familiar with "bless your heart".

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RE: Bush says government will make the banks all better - 9/20/2008 9:16:44 PM   
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ORIGINAL: cog41

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ORIGINAL: cow451

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ORIGINAL: rlj

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Correction: Texas is WEST, not South. His Excellency is a westerner, not a Southerner.


They're south of the Mason and Dixon line. :P


A mere technicality. State must have a member of the SEC or ACC to be part of the South.



Incorrect.

Texas is not a "western" state but a "southwestern" state.

Southerners are those from states who were members of the Confederate States.

We in Texas are very familiar with "bless your heart".

Bless your heart.

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RE: For the Glory of the Unitied Socialists of America - 9/20/2008 11:14:08 PM   
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ORIGINAL: rlj

Sorry, I couldn't resist. General Secretary Comrade Bush has sent his request to the Party Congress requesting 700 million rubles- er I mean Yuan, no wait that would be dollars to reverse the awful trend of the capitalist pig swine who have brought this glorious country to its knees with their vicious and greedy methods of business.

quote:

NEW YORK (CNNMoney.com) -- The Bush administration has asked Congress for the authority to spend as much as $700 billion to purchase troubled mortgage assets, according to a copy of the proposal obtained by CNN.

The legislative proposal - the centerpiece of the most sweeping economic intervention by the government since the Great Depression - was sent by the White House overnight to lawmakers.

Treasury Secretary Henry Paulson, lawmakers and their aides are expected to work through the weekend in an effort to craft a bill swiftly. Democratic leaders on Capitol Hill said they expect the bill to go before a vote within days.


http://money.cnn.com/2008/09/20/news/economy/bailout_proposal/index.htm?postversion=2008092009

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Somebody's been watching Glenn Beck....

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RE: For the Glory of the Unitied Socialists of America - 9/21/2008 6:35:40 AM   
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Somebody's been watching Glenn Beck....


Never seen him or heard him. I am however reading Sam Clancy's "The Hunt For Red October" in which he makes use of some of the commie cliches and such and I couldn't help but want to put the two together. ; )

Oh and wanted to add I just watched Dr. Strangelove for the first time to which is having the same kind of effect. Just remember before all of this is done make sure your precious bodily fluids don't become contaminated.

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RE: For the Glory of the Unitied Socialists of America - 9/21/2008 6:58:35 AM   
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ORIGINAL: rlj

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Somebody's been watching Glenn Beck....


Never seen him or heard him. I am however reading Sam Clancy's "The Hunt For Red October" in which he makes use of some of the commie cliches and such and I couldn't help but want to put the two together. ; )

Oh and wanted to add I just watched Dr. Strangelove for the first time to which is having the same kind of effect. Just remember before all of this is done make sure your precious bodily fluids don't become contaminated.

Tom Clancy....

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RE: For the Glory of the Unitied Socialists of America - 9/21/2008 7:21:47 AM   
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Tom Clancy....


Ack, it's early. :P : ) Anyway it's the first book by him I have read or started reading anyway. I absolutely loved the movie when I first watched it years ago.

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Free Money to all the World's Banks! - 9/21/2008 1:20:51 PM   
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We're not just paying for our banks but for any bank that does business in the US:

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WASHINGTON (Reuters) - Treasury Secretary Henry Paulson said Sunday that foreign banks will be able to unload bad financial assets under a $700 billion U.S. proposal aimed at restoring order during a devastating financial crisis.

"Yes, and they should. Because ... if a financial institution has business operations in the United States, hires people in the United States, if they are clogged with illiquid assets, they have the same impact on the American people as any other institution," Paulson said on ABC television's "This Week with George Stephanopolous."


http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20080921/bs_nm/financial_bailout_paulson_dc_5

Man, I bet FDR and LBJ are both screaming and cussing in their graves now because they didn't think to give all of that kind of money away to foreigners.

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RE: For the Glory of the Unitied Socialists of America - 9/21/2008 2:14:05 PM   
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ORIGINAL: rlj

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Tom Clancy....


Ack, it's early. :P : ) Anyway it's the first book by him I have read or started reading anyway. I absolutely loved the movie when I first watched it years ago.


If you really want to dig into Chinese politics, read "The Bear and the Dragon". Clancy knows how ready the sign of the times well....

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LBJ? Jimmy Carter? Bill Clinton? - 9/23/2008 7:49:04 PM   
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Since Congress and the President seem totally obsessed with a .7 trillion dollar (or higher) bailout of the US economy it got me to thinking: Dubya is such a great, wonderful and wise leader. His economy is just the best we've ever had in history. So I was looking and I can't find so I was wondering- how many trillions of taxpayer money did the government have to invest in the US economy during the terms of LBJ, Carter and Clinton to keep us from starting a potential worldwide depression? 5 trillion each? 10 trillion? 20 trillion? It had to be awful significantly high if someone with as much wisdom as his majesty Dubya needs almost 1 trillion.

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RE: Bush says government will make the banks all better - 9/23/2008 8:17:10 PM   
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Wow! So like I thought maybe it was just America's fav. Dem (Nancy Pelosi) that was opposed to the 700 bilion Disaster the Genius in the Oval office came up with, then I see that Ranking, Pro life, Anti- Gay, Church going, "Moral" Republicans are dead set against this bail out? WOW! I guess thats what you call Bi Partisan! I was almost Proud to be a former Kentuckian when I heard Jim Bunning(Retired Hall Of Fame MLB Pitcher) Slam Paulson along with other (R) and Dems totally against the "bail out"

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RE: Bush says government will make the banks all better - 9/27/2008 1:10:15 PM   
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Have to love those Democrats. They spend 5+ years being critical of the Bush administration for multi-tasking on 911 and not concentrating on the crisis, but then turn around and say multi-tasking is a requirment of being president. They go so far as to say that it is perfectly alright for the president to phone in his response to a crisis, and that because something was scheduled far in advance of a crisis, it is perfectly understandable for their candidate to hold to his schedule instead of dealing with a crisis.

Foe a political party that has no idea what "is" means, they seem to have a strange, and very flexible, idea what it means for someone to be president of the United States.
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RE: Bush says government will make the banks all better - 9/28/2008 6:27:27 AM   
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Have to love those Democrats. They spend 5+ years being critical of the Bush administration for multi-tasking on 911 and not concentrating on the crisis, but then turn around and say multi-tasking is a requirment of being president. They go so far as to say that it is perfectly alright for the president to phone in his response to a crisis, and that because something was scheduled far in advance of a crisis, it is perfectly understandable for their candidate to hold to his schedule instead of dealing with a crisis.

Foe a political party that has no idea what "is" means, they seem to have a strange, and very flexible, idea what it means for someone to be president of the United States.

Well, they continue to deny that because of Clinton's economic policies in the '90s, we are where we are today.

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RE: Bush says government will make the banks all better - 9/28/2008 2:12:18 PM   
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I am just absoutely amazed at how when the dems control the White House, Senate and House of Representatives they can get many of their socialists policies, judges, laws and such passed and do it in a mere 2 years.

However when the Republicans control all of that for 6 years we have to listen to:

1)It was Bill Clinton's fault.

2)They have a minority in the Senate.

3)It got stalled by the minority dems in that committee.

4)It was still Bill Clinton's fault.

5)We tried that 17 times but never told anyone that it was important.

6)Had it not been for Bill Clinton we wouldn't have had to try it 17 times.

7)Did everyone know that if Bill Clinton wasn't president from 93 to 2001 with a REPUBLICAN controlled congress for 6 of those years this would be a capitalist Utopia?

I had to listen on CW for 5 solid years about what a wonderful thing this Bush economy is and all of a sudden it's Bill Clinton's.

I so can't wait til the election. I'll get down and my hands and knees and thank and praise God that it's over with no matter who is elected.

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RE: Bush says government will make the banks all better - 9/29/2008 12:37:23 PM   
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I am just absoutely amazed at how when the dems control the White House, Senate and House of Representatives they can get many of their socialists policies, judges, laws and such passed and do it in a mere 2 years.

However when the Republicans control all of that for 6 years we have to listen to:

1)It was Bill Clinton's fault.

2)They have a minority in the Senate.

3)It got stalled by the minority dems in that committee.

4)It was still Bill Clinton's fault.

5)We tried that 17 times but never told anyone that it was important.

6)Had it not been for Bill Clinton we wouldn't have had to try it 17 times.

7)Did everyone know that if Bill Clinton wasn't president from 93 to 2001 with a REPUBLICAN controlled congress for 6 of those years this would be a capitalist Utopia?

I had to listen on CW for 5 solid years about what a wonderful thing this Bush economy is and all of a sudden it's Bill Clinton's.

I so can't wait til the election. I'll get down and my hands and knees and thank and praise God that it's over with no matter who is elected.



I'll just be glad when Bush is GONE!

I feel sorry for the next president no matter who it is.

they got a mess to clean up!

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RE: Bush says government will make the banks all better - 10/7/2008 11:25:08 AM   
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Latest Bush approval rating: a Whopping 24%! Way to go Georgie! What a Baphoon!

750,000 jobs now lost in 2008! Another fantastic bullet on the accomplishments of a "Christian" President, please. If we can tell a christian by it's fruit, let me tell you- Bush's fruit Rotted A LONG time ago!

Hopefully the "religious right" wont make the same mistake.......AGAIN!

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RE: Bush says government will make the banks all better - 10/7/2008 12:45:16 PM   
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Latest Bush approval rating: a Whopping 24%! Way to go Georgie!
Way to go indeed! It is twice as good as Congress' approval rating...

But with that fact posted, I'm more than sure the country will make the same mistake... AGAIN.

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RE: Bush says government will make the banks all better - 10/7/2008 2:06:36 PM   
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Latest Bush approval rating: a Whopping 24%! Way to go Georgie!
Way to go indeed! It is twice as good as Congress' approval rating...

But with that fact posted, I'm more than sure the country will make the same mistake... AGAIN.


It's even better than Nancy Pelosi's...

Scroll down to the "throw the bums out"...

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RE: Bush says government will make the banks all better - 10/7/2008 2:41:41 PM   
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Scroll down to the "throw the bums out"...
Been there, done that.

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RE: Bush says government will make the banks all better - 10/10/2008 9:46:29 AM   
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So Jimmy Carter comes out of the wood work to bash Bush.

The father of the "Community Reinvestment Act" which forced banks to grant loans to low income bad credit people leading up to this market meltdown.

The guy was supposed to be a Christian who taught Sunday school in Columbus GA. ???
I guess he's decided this is a great opportunity to erase his legacy as the worst president of the 20th century.

This must leave Bill Clinton in a quandry as well.

Does he attack Bush to to avoid getting slammed for his work in 1995 at creating the subprime authorization and ensure Barak's election thus wiping out Hillary's chance in 2012 or keep his mouth shut?
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RE: Bush says government will make the banks all better - 10/10/2008 7:43:54 PM   
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The Community Reinvestment Act applies to depository banks. But many of the institutions that spurred the massive growth of the subprime market weren't regulated banks. They were outfits such as Argent and American Home Mortgage, which were generally not regulated by the Federal Reserve or other entities that monitored compliance with CRA. These institutions worked hand in glove with Bear Stearns and Lehman Brothers, entities to which the CRA likewise didn't apply. There's much more. As Barry Ritholtz notes in his fine rant, the CRA didn't force mortgage companies to offer loans for no-money down, or to throw underwriting standards out the window, or to encourage mortgage brokers to aggressively seek out new markets. Nor did the CRA force the credit-rating agencies to slap high-grade ratings on subprime debt.


http://www.newsweek.com/id/162789

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But note that about 56 percent of subprime mortgages went to non-Hispanic white people, according to the study, which was made in 2006 at the peak of their usage. And about 40 percent went to borrowers considered affluent - that is, who have annual incomes at least 120 percent of their local median income.


http://www.modbee.com/opinion/national/story/458914.html

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The critics have forgotten that the House passed a GSE reform bill in 2005 that could well have prevented the current crisis, says Mr Oxley, now vice-chairman of Nasdaq.

He fumes about the criticism of his House colleagues. “All the handwringing and bedwetting is going on without remembering how the House stepped up on this,” he says. “What did we get from the White House? We got a one-finger salute.”

The House bill, the 2005 Federal Housing Finance Reform Act, would have created a stronger regulator with new powers to increase capital at Fannie and Freddie, to limit their portfolios and to deal with the possibility of receivership.

Mr Oxley reached out to Barney Frank, then the ranking Democrat on the committee and now its chairman, to secure support on the other side of the aisle. But after winning bipartisan support in the House, where the bill passed by 331 to 90 votes, the legislation lacked a champion in the Senate and faced hostility from the Bush administration.


http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/8780c35e-7e91-11dd-b1af-000077b07658.html?nclick_check=1

Mike Oxley is a retired House Republican who chaired House Financial Services Committee.

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RE: Bush says government will make the banks all better - 10/10/2008 8:18:39 PM   
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2005 Federal Housing Finance Reform Act let's see some of the things it has:

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10/26/2005--Passed House amended.
Federal Housing Finance Reform Act of 2005 -
Title I - Reform of Regulation of Enterprises and Federal Home Loan Banks
Subtitle A - Improvement of Safety and Soundness
Section 101 -
Amends the Housing and Community Development Act of 1992 (Act) to establish the Federal Housing Finance Agency (FHFA), which shall have supervisory and regulatory authority over the Federal National Mortgage Association (Fannie Mae) and the Federal Home Loan Mortgage Corporation (Freddie Mac) (both hereinafter referred to as the "enterprises") and the Federal Home Loan Banks.


Summary here:

http://www.govtrack.us/congress/bill.xpd?bill=h109-1461&tab=summary

Full text here:

http://www.govtrack.us/congress/billtext.xpd?bill=h109-1461

This is real cute here, I think it means that entities who try to run voter drives and such don't get money if they are non-profit:

quote:

(C) does not, at the time during the period that begins 12 months before submission of an application for funding from the affordable housing fund of the enterprise and ending upon the expiration of the period referred to in paragraph (1)(B)--

`(i) engage in any Federal election activity, as such term is defined in paragraph (20) of section 301 of the Federal Election Campaign Act of 1971 (2 U.S.C. 431(20)), except that, notwithstanding the 120-day limitation in subparagraph (A)(i) of such paragraph, such term shall include voter registration activity during any period;


So here is a nice article with some excellent links on what Republicans did:

http://uspolitics.about.com/b/2008/09/18/republican-congress-talked-about-financial-reform-but-did-nothing.htm

That last link is a graveyard of stuff that mostly died in committee. It's a shame that Republicans had control of those committees since they had control of the House for those years.

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Consultin' with the rain
And my head I'd be scratchin'
While my thoughts were busy hatchin'
If I only had a brain
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RE: Bush says government will make the banks all better - 10/12/2008 10:05:02 PM   
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Medictaed my self to be able to stomach about 10 minutes of Hannity's show. OMG the Conservatives in this country are revealing just how desperate they are. America could care 3 cucumbers about Ayers, Wright, and that other loony preacher, America is concerned wit the Economy, something McCain hasn't got a clue about. Bush is about to put yet another grand bullet on his resume, 1,000,000 jobs lost in one year under his watch! We're getting close.

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RE: Bush says government will make the banks all better - 10/13/2008 3:44:06 PM   
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Sorry, but palling around with a known terrorist and siting in a church that spews anit-American hate for 20 years is not the sort of judgment I want to see in a President.

And admit it, you'd be jumping all over it if it turned out that McCain was buddy buddy with abortion clinic bomber Eric Rudolph or ex-KKK leader David Duke....

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RE: Bush says government will make the banks all better - 10/15/2008 11:41:18 PM   
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LOL, I love it! The Electoral map is turning BLUE!!!!!!! HEy Johnny MAc, make sure you send Georgie a Big fat Thank you Card! LOL!!!!!! Wait.........you all smell that? It smells like something died.....the McCain Campaign! ROFLMBO

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